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Old 11-07-2011, 17:05
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Okay guys/gals I decided to start a thread for Wallstreet Forex Robot, which I will refer to as WSFR from now on. The reason I chose to start with this one is because despite the very uninspiring name, this ea has been a consistent winner for me and doing very well even in the summer months.

Here is a link. Wallstreet Forex Robot

I want to be honest and tell you this is an affiliate link. I do not hide this fact. I would also like for you to know that I am not about making money from marketing. In fact the only reason I ever signed up as an affiliate was to have the ability to buy robots and get a discount if I decided to stay with them. The reason I am using my links is because I feel like if any one decides on there own to buy this ea than they will have to buy it from someone. By buying from me it supports me and also allows me to buy more ea's to test.

Okay glad thats out of the way.

In a nutshell WSFR is a scalper that trades anytime the conditions are good. It is not only a scalper but its risk to reward is a little out of wack. Its average win is almost 10 pips while its average loss is probably around 12. Its win rate is around 80%

I keep saying around because I have WSFR on 2 live accounts and a total of 3 accounts at one point. This ea like most ea's, is broker sensitive.

It trades the four majors Eur/USD, GBP/USD, USD/JPY, and USD/CHF

Personally I love this robot and it is my favorite in my portfolio, I'm going to show you guys my results in the next post so you can see for yourselves how WSFR has performed live for me.
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Old 11-07-2011, 17:33
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Okay I tried to edit my first post and add some stuff but I guess there is a 3 minute limit to edits. Anyway All I really was trying to add that I am going to touch on some things that affect profitability it this or any ea for that matter. I have been running WSFR live on hotforex currenex as of the last week or so and before that it was on a regular hotforex account. I am also running it live on fxopen.

I will compile some stats and put them up for all to see.

In the meantime some things that affect profitablity.

First and foremost, spread. If you are paying a high spread it will chew into your profits. This may not matter to ea's with a larger tp but for a scalper it is a very important consideration.

Another consideration is price feed and trade execution. Some brokers are better than others and all price feeds are different. I have run ea's on demo accounts and live, and I can say the only true way of knowing how an ea will perform is with a live account. Demo account will not suffer slippage, or requotes and therefore will not give you a true picture of an ea's performance

Another consideration is latency. That means how fast do things happen once the ea executes an order. To keep it simple I will just say faster is better. I have a VPS set up in the UK even though I am in the USA. By being physically closer I am getting better latency and therefore better execution.

Are you curious on how you can measure latency? Its actually quite simple (for windows anyway)

First click on start menu and in the search box type CMD
a blackbox will appear on your screen. This is for dos commands.

For hotforex you would type the following
ping hotforex.com

For fxopen you would type ping fxopen.com

Then windows will ping the server and return a report. I know there are more advanced ways to do this but this will give you a good idea of how fast orders are getting executed.

Whoever you are using for a broker can be tested just add your broker's website after the word ping.

just to let you guys know I pinged hotforex.com from my USA desktop and from my UK server. here's the results...

USA to hotforex.com average 141 ms (milli-seconds)
UK to hotforex.com average 26 ms

okay I'll be back with some stats...
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:41
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FXopen
4.27 -present


EU
total trades: 44
Average win rate : 83.5%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 8.78 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-23 pips [/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"]164 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-46 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner : [COLOR="Blue"]26 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 1.32 .



GU
total trades: 23
Average win rate : 83%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]14.63 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-32 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"] 150 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-120 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner : [COLOR="Blue"]25 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 2.34


UJ
total trades: 28
Average win rate : 63%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]6.72 pips [/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-10.2 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: 19 pips
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-22 pips [/COLOR]
Best winner [COLOR="Blue"]27 pips [/COLOR]
Profit factor: 1.11

UC
total trades: 41
Average win rate : 70.5%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]8.11 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]- 17.36 pips [/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Red"]-24 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-120 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner: [COLOR="Blue"]17 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: .58


Totals
total trades: 136
Average win rate : 75%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 9.34 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-18.11 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"]309 pips [/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-120 pips [/COLOR]
Best winner: 27
Profit factor 1.22


Hot Forex Live
6.13.11 - 6.30.11


EU
total trades: 17
Average win rate : 87.5%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 6.96 pips [/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-16 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"]72.4 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-12.9 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner : [COLOR="Blue"]16.4 pips [/COLOR]
Profit factor: 3.62 .


GU
total trades: 9
Average win rate : 65%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]18.47 pips [/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-6.1 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"]92.5 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-14.3 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner : [COLOR="Blue"]23.4 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 6.18


UJ
total trades: 4
Average win rate :
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]4.73 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-2.3 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"] 11.9 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-2.3 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner [COLOR="Blue"]4.85 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 5.13



UC
total trades: 10
Average win rate : 54%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]7.45 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-23.7 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Red"]-50.1 pips [/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-39.8 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner: [COLOR="Blue"]12 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: .38



Totals
total trades: 40
Average win rate : 73.5%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 9.14 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-14.74 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far [COLOR="Blue"]126.7 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-39.8 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 23.4 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor 2.18


Hotforex Currenex live
7.1.11 - present



EU
total trades: 4
Average win rate : 75%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 2.53 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-14.9 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Red"]-7.3 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser [COLOR="Red"]-14.9 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner [COLOR="Blue"]5.6 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: .26



GU
total trades: 4
Average win rate : 75%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]15.53 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"] -1.5 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"]48.1 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-1.5 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner : [COLOR="Blue"]19.3 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 131.27


UJ
total trades: 0
Average win rate : -
Average winner -
Average loser: -
Net pips so far: -
Worst loser: -
Best winner -
Profit factor: -


UC
total trades: 5
Average win rate : 87.5%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"]11.08 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"]-8.7 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"]35.6 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"] -8.7 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 17 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 5.53


Totals
total trades: 13
Average win rate : 87.5%
Average winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 9.85 pips[/COLOR]
Average loser: [COLOR="Red"] -7.37 pips[/COLOR]
Net pips so far: [COLOR="Blue"] 76.4 pips[/COLOR]
Worst loser: [COLOR="Red"]-15.9 pips[/COLOR]
Best winner: [COLOR="Blue"] 18.3 pips[/COLOR]
Profit factor: 3.38
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:29
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okay one last thing before I call it a night. You may notice that the hotforex accounts are relatively new. I did demo WSFR for the same time I had it on fxopen. It did extremely well and so that is why I decided to go live with hotforex. After a couple of weeks with a micro account I decided to go with a currenex account because of the great spreads and for million dollar pips which I will start a thread about in the near future.

Anyway proof is in the pudding so I am going to include a myfxbook widget here for all to see. This is my newest account, and WSFR is doing extremely well on it. I may cut usdchf from the lineup or severely limit my risk but I am not ready to do that just yet, but it is on my mind.

I do run higher risk on eu and gu. As you can see by my stats above these 2 pairs are doing very well compared to the others.

Anyway I'll talk to you guys later,
John


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fxopen has been averaging around a 100 pips a month

hot forex and hotforex currenex averaged together earned 203 pips over the last 30 days.

Very solid robot. I would definitely say it is doing best on hotforex.

If you are interested in checking them out here's a link.

http://www.hotforex.com
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you have kept your live account at fxopen even though you live in the u.s.? They told me they no longer accept us clients (after being sued by ctfc).
Thanks for your reporting, nice to see another honest ea disection.
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yea I have had my account with them for some time now, no problem at all. I would say I'm really loving hotforex though.
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real quick update.

WSFR so far...
win rate: 88.5%
net pips: 149.9
monthly account gain: over 44% (so far)

my account overall is almost 100% this month!
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Hi John,
I purchased the EA this morning and put it on demo just to make sure Alpari worked. Three winning trades this afternoon already. Will change to live next week.
Do you recommend Hotforex as the prime broker for EAs?
I also purchased MDPips yesterday and am running it on a ThinkForex live account (their recommended broker), first trade was a loser.
Just finally, I have been using Forex Gold Trader as my only EA for two months and committed the sin of closing trades when the drawdown was high (never easy to hold your nerve). Needless to say gold prices have risen again and the closed trades would now be in profit.
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I'm glad your first trades were winners with WSFR. I don't know how Alpari is but I have heard good things about them overall. I was running fxopen for a while and my ea's were running good but hotforex seems to be great. I think for a scalper a low low spread is a must. Otherwise its going to eat into your trades and turn winners into losers. Nothing is worse than missing a take profit by 1 pip or fraction of a pip for that matter.

I'm running WSFR as well as mdp on hotforex currenex and it has been awesome so far. I am going to start a thread about mdp and talk more about it there. I should have it started by tomorrow. I definitely want to talk about those results too.

My style trading involves having a portfolio of different ea's I feel that it reduces risk overall.

Many people say ea's aren't as good as traders who use there brains. I agree, even the best ea cannot beat a great trader. However I feel that people should consider that ea's are not human. They do not act human. They are a program and they don't think or act human. All they do 24 hours a day is look for a specific condition to be met. When that condition is met they execute a trade and than they "rinse and repeat"

When you have mulitple ea's or ea's (like wallstreet) that have very complex algorithms than they can search for different market conditions or patterns or whatever they are designed to look for.

Point is, if you 5 different ea's all looking for 5 different conditions than you have 5 times more opportunity. It would be like a trader trading 5 different systems. He will have more signals for different reasons. Some reasons might be a trending market, or a range bound market, or a volatile market, but that is basically impossible because who can keep up with that?

The 5 ea's would all be looking for there condition 24 hours a day. If the ea's have a positive expectancy in the long term than the portfolio would grow at a steady pace. Draw downs and draw down periods would be reduced. Overall you end up with a smoother equity curve.

Markets always change and many times an ea that was great is left in the dust! We see examples of this all over the internet. Just ask anyone still trading fapturbo? If you have several ea's running, when one starts to fizzle out you limit the risk and at some point maybe you decide to put it on the shelf. And always look for new ways to make money. New ea's that are producing, because believe it or not there is always something that is doing well, and some do well longer than others.

A perfect example is Forex Morning Trade. This ea was on fire for a long long time and it was doing so well I upped my risk by trading it 3 times a day all with 2% risk per trade. Some weeks it would make me 10% and some weeks it would make 40% It was great. Than something happened. It started a couple months ago. It seemed like FMT couldn't win 2 in a row so the first thing I did was reduce my risk dramatically. First I reduced to .5% per trade 3 times a day but I watched losing week after losing week for about a month and so I decided to drop down to 2 trades and one I leave at around .3% and the other one even lower. If at the end of fall I haven't seen some break even months and some winning months than I will drop it completely from the line-up.

Same with FGB right now it has had a couple of rough weeks. First thing I do is reduce risk. It's all about preserving capital.

MDP and WSFR are on fire so I have upped my risk a little.

WSFR EU risk is 10%
WSFR GU risk is 10%
while UC and UJ are only 3% risk

if EU or GU start to lose or hit full stops often than I will cut risk. You may think 10% is high but it isn't I look at average loss and based on those numbers I am comfortable with the risk. Right now WSFR's average los is about 10% of a full stop loss or about 18-20 pips So in reality I can adjust my risk. In my mind I realize I could lose 10% but based on history I think as a rule of average a loser will cost me 1% of my account. I can also do this because I have decent leverage. Anyway I hope you guys follow what I am saying about risk, and also about diversification. It is critical to a healthy portfolio.

So right now my portfolio is.....
WSFR 3.8
Million Dollar Pips 1.1.4
Forex Growth Bot 1.6
Steady Winner 5.0
Forex Morning trade (on very small risk due to poor perfermance)

Sorry for the really long post
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